Could a Trucker Shutdown Be a Reality?
Can It Accomplish Anything?
The facts as Trucker To Trucker has been able to determine would seem to indicate that the thinking is out there about the possibility. Perhaps still in its infant stages, but nevertheless it seems like it could grow beyond truck stop talk.
The issues for truckers are long hours, separation from family, substandard pay, inadequate benefits, increased living costs and the failure of many in the industry to address those realities. Truck safety standards are being raised from already high levels, which is a good thing, but the cost of maintenance and the time it takes to insure the proper level of safety has also risen. Mexican trucks being welcomed in the United States is not a positive addition to the already challenged trucker.
The price of fuel has increased exponentially over the last several months and oil companies, transportation companies, brokers and others all seem to be recouping their costs plus profit while the trucker continues to be squeezed from all sides as a producer delivering the goods and as a consumer attempting to support a family. The profit pie does not seem like it is being divided fairly.
Brokers never reveal their individual truckload profits, but few are going out of business, while many independent truckers and small companies are struggling to make ends meet.
Certainly there are a number of current issues that are the cause of angst, concern and frustration by drivers which might result in some sort of strike or boycott.
The question is – what exactly are the goals and what remedy is available for truckers. Who would represent the truckers? To borrow a line from past government policies – what is the exit strategy? How would one know if the goal was accomplished?
Then again Trucker To Trucker may not be measuring the pulse correctly
– what say you?
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To make this go viral, we're going to need as many writings/rants as possible. Anyone that can write a post about "why this shutdown has to happen", write it and send it to me. If anyone see's signs about it and has a camera, take pictures, send them to me and I'll help distribute them properly. The biggie is if any of you can do a video about "why this shutdown needs to happen", a video will really help kick this off. Again, send me anything and I'll do the distribution.
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jim@truckertotrucker.com
It would seem that one remedy might be at least temporary relief from federal and state fuel taxes for big rigs. Perhaps this could be defined by class, or in some other manner. A tax credit for income tax purposes is a possibility. After all the government is about to pass out billions of dollars to insure the economy remains stable.
Suppose the shutdown actually did happen. Who would government officials talk with about any proposed remedy?
There are numerous laws that come into play and if a shutdown actually did occur by truckers that lasted more than a day or two, it could potentially cripple the economy and it is likely that the government would order folks back to work with a "cooling off" period. That would probably be advantageous as people could continue to work and someone or some group could enter into some type of negotiation to seek a potential remedy.
There needs to be at least a majority (51%) that would join the shutdown. Anything less would be detrimental to those who would support the effort and in fact might result in a loss on one's job or business if only a small percentage participated.
Could there be at least a single Internet site where truckers would confirm their intention to support the trucker shutdown. If ten's of thousands signed a pledge could the objective be obtained without any work action?
In short a goal or goals need to be defined and agreed upon and there has to be some spokesman available. There also needs to be a large number of truckers willing to step up to the plate. Can that really happen?
Time will tell if this is just idle chatter or is the basis for a work action that might yield some results.
jim@truckertotrucker.com
What specific kind of help do you want with fuel rates and who are you going to talk to about getting the help you want?
To help the shippers, should there also be a maximum rate per mile that they can be charged? Who are you going to ask to set and enforce the minimum rate?
Whey do you feel that 12% is the Max that brokers should charge? Why not 5% or 15%? How did you arrive at that number? Since brokers percentage should have a cap, should they still have to pay the truck if the shipper does not pay them? Since they are just taking a percentage, should they have to use their money to pay the truck in 10 days, even if they have to wait 30 or 90 days for the shipper to pay them?
What if the broker cannot get the shipper to agree to pay a fuel surcharge? Then what happens?
Why should some one guarantee us a higher rate of income so that we don't "have to work so hard"? Should the men and women at McDonald's get a much higher pay than they do now so they "don't have to work so hard"? Oh yes, then the big mac will have to cost more so we can go back on strike for higher GUARANTEED freight rates again. It's a never ending circle and it gets more out of balance with each rotation.
Now I will agree with you on a much more extensive training program for new drivers. Also a longer "apprentice" period before they go solo.
I'm with you on policing our own industry. Please share the specific ways that you would like US to Police our industry?
Again, I'm with you on shutting down unsafe trucks and unsafe drivers. Please share your ideas as to how this can be accomplished?
Now I'm really with you on enforcing, what I think is already a rule that drivers have to take the CDL exam in English and that they must be able to read, write and speak English well enough to do their job. I thought there was such a rule, but I hear that some states are allowing interpreters to help none English speaking Drivers take the test.
Here are some things that I would like to see changed. I would like to see the speed limit be the same for cars and trucks in all states, so that traffic would flow at a fairly steady pace. Now to accomplish this the idea that "they will let us get away with 10 over" needs to be abolished, by having very heavy fines imposed for minor speeding violations. I'm not going to propose a speed limit, but I would just like them to be the same so we could gear our trucks for maximum fuel mileage and pulling power in all states.
What percentage of the load pay do you think is reasonable for the truck owner to receive?
This was not brought up, but I'm going to throw it out. If broker "A" has a shipper with a load but cannot find a truck to haul it, and his friend, broker "B" has a truck that would like to haul that load, how should this transaction work and who should get what percentage of the freight? Broker "A" has cultivated the customer and provided him good service for years. Broker "A" will have to collect the money from the shipper and pay some to Broker "B" who will have to pay the trucker who pulls for Broker "B" every week. "Broker "B" will probably make the advance to his truck at time of loading and pay the balance with in 10 days , again out of his own money while he waits for Broker "A' to pay him. Please tell me how you think this transaction should be handled differently and how much each party is entitled to? This happens all the time and it's referred to by many as double brokering. No different than your Cherrio's going though several distributors before it get to the grocers shelf. So Wray, even though I do not support all of these different shutdown days as being the answer, we do agree on some of the things that should be changed. I await your answer's. Jim
Since I must have not made my request for information clear in the earlier posts, I'm going to try again but make it easier this time.
What is the number one thing that you want changed?
Who or what specific government department are you going to meet with during the shutdown to negotiate for the change that you want?
I see that you have been an owner operator for 14 years. Do you run under your own authority or are you leased to a carrier? What type of trailer do you pull, (van, reefer, flat, etc)?
It took me 30 years of trying things in the trucking business that did not work before I found what is working for me.
"Keep on trucking Jim while I fight for your wages to make them better."
But you must have me confused with a company driver. I do not get a wage. I am a trucking business owner and as such I negotiate with my customers to provide a quality service to them for which they pay me a fee (freight rate if you will). My goal is to always negotiate a fee that will cover all of my expenses and give a reasonable profit margin.
"TIME TO TAKE A STAND AND GROW A PAIR FOR GOD SAKE." If you could give me some specific good reasons to take a stand, and how you expect that "stand" will bring about positive changes and improvements in our business, I might be willing to "stand with you." So far all I am hearing is a lot of emotional talk and have yet to see a viable plan put forth.
Note, I am not "TRUCKER JIM" who I believe is the owner of this site, I'm just Jim. I don't want TJ catching flack for my comments. He is a good guy.
Why don't all you leaders of the various shutdowns and boycotts get together and agree on a single date for all of the events? You know "LETS ALL STICK TOGETHER!"
Then when the date is agreed upon you can work as a gro up to draft a list of the things that you want changed. Then you can make a list of the people or agencies that can make those changes happen.
Call or write to those agencies NOW, and let them know what you want done, so that on Shutdown day they will have had time to prepare to address your issues.
Please tell me what is wrong with that plan?
Most are saying "LETS ALL STAND TOGETHER" yet none of you can even agree on a date to "STAND"
I wish I was in the news media. I could win a Pulitzer for coverage of this Three Stooges Event, as it is currently planned or not planned as the case may be.
Please do us proud and give us SOMETHING that we can stand up for.
Good luck, be safe and professional in what ever you do.
Jim
At 11:25 a.m on Monday March 24, 2008 I talked to Angle Burneil, who is the Executive Assistant to Todd Spencer and Jim Johnston. I used the phone number 816 229 5791.
Angle said "OOIDA HAS NO KNOWLEDGE OF ANY PLANNED SHUTDOWN BY ANY OF THE LARGE CARRIERS, INCLUDING THE ONES THAT ICEMAN QUOTED IN HIS MARCH 21 ST POST"
ICEMAN, what is the name and the position of the person that you talked to at OOIDA last week?
Thanks
If you are still hauling for the 35 cents a mile that I was getting in the 70's you do have a problem. You need a new customer or a new broker. Then my shinny new Pete cost $27,500.00 back in 70.
"Now for god sake grow a pair Jim and take a stand, or as George bush would say, you’re either with us or against us. WHICH IS IT JIM?"
As this poorly organized event stands now I will make it very clear "I AM VERY MUCH AGAINST YOUR MOVEMENT!" Now, if you can all agree on a single date, and tell me who you are going to meet with to get the changes made and what your desired results are, then I might reconsider and back the shutdown. As it stands now, in my opinion, this has absolutely no chance of success.
Are all of you going to support each others events? This means being shut down from now through April 12th and again from May 1 - 12.
I'm on the phone now with a friend who runs dedicated on I-70 and they are hearing May 15th as the date. Add that date to your schedule.
Where is the "We are all sticking together for a common result?"
side note, Trucker Jim, administrator emailed me with the information on how to do paragraph's so our comments don't all run together and become hard to read.
I don't know if this will hold when I post but I'll try "
" leave out the quotation marks, each time you do a < BR > (no spaces) you will get a line return. thanks,Jim
Here is the official company response...
Regarding the question of Werner participating in a nationwide drivers strike…
The answer is No.
While we are painfully aware of the significant negative impact the cost of fuel has on all of us in our industry, we don’t believe that the strike is an effective way to address the issue, and it would have a negative impact on our customers and our drivers over something which they cannot control.
>>> 03/21/08 9:37 PM >>>
I have a similar response from Schneider National, so some one was posting incorrect information.
Got it.
